Our Curious Relationship With Centennial Park Arizona

Joe’s sister Rachel, Vicki, Valerie, and Alina with Amanda at her wedding as filmed on TLC’s My Three Wives last summer.

Members from the polygamous community of Centennial Park were recently featured in a special called Polygamy USA which aired on National Geographic. We have not seen it yet but understand it to be well done. We are excited to watch the first episode and subsequent episodes to follow. Centennial Park has participated in many media specials and they have a high standard of doing exceptional things in their community.

Since we do not belong to any church or religious group, we inevitably get questions about the differences between us and a community like Centennial Park, or us and the Brown family of Sister Wives. Doctrinally we are probably not as different as we are culturally. Until the early 1950’s Mormon Fundamentalists were largely one group; differences arose in questions of who held priesthood authority and many of the current churches that practice plural marriage were established. Many of us share common roots.

For those of you who watched our television special, My Three Wives you probably know that our daughter Amanda married a young man from, and currently lives in Centennial Park, Arizona. She is in love not just with her husband, but with the community. We have met so many good people there; it is easy to see why.

One of the more obvious differences between us is the mode of dress. Centennial Park is more conservative in tradition. In their culture the women predominately wear dresses and the men long sleeve shirts. There are many other cultural differences we continue to discover, such as the work missions that many of their young men participate in.

Also, we do not live in a polygamous community like Centennial Park, but in a suburban neighborhood. Like us, Centennial Park is committed to the education of their children. They have a highly ranked charter school and a high school within their community. Our children attend local public and charter schools.

Another difference is that Centennial Park practices a form of placement marriage. In most cases men do not solicit marriage that decision is left up to the women. In our family there are no placement marriages but we as parents try to be involved with guidance and counsel as our children choose their mates for life. Amanda and Rob did not practice placement marriage. In their case they met through some mutual friends.

Doctrinally Centennial Park subscribes to a “Priesthood Council” leadership. In the early 1980’s among the group that lived in Colorado City Arizona, there was a dispute concerning leadership. Some members believed in “one man rule” while others believed the group should be led by a priesthood council. Eventually, the group split, those who followed the “one man rule” system came to be known as the FLDS. Those who followed the idea of a council for leadership left Colorado City and founded the town of Centennial Park. Today there is no formal relationship between Centennial Park and the FLDS.

We do not feel we have any leader or prophet on the earth at this time and that their church is not sanctioned by God, as such we do not belong to their group.  Hence, we are known as “Independents” meaning we have no church or community affiliation. The Browns are part of a different sect known as the Apostolic United Brethren, and we feel the same about their church as we do about Centennial Park. However, there are many fine people in the different polygamous groups.

It is our belief that we are more alike than different, and so long as these communities do not espouse abuse, neglect or force in their practice of polygamy we should unite in decriminalizing polygamy for all of our families. 

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Polygamists Go On Monogamous-like Vacations

Everyone needs a vacation sometime, it doesn’t matter who you are. Polygamous husbands need them, plural wives need them. Sometimes polygamous husbands and one of their wives decide to take a vacation, mono y mono. We have all been on romantic vacations with Joe and see the necessity for ourselves, our sister wives and our husband to have that experience. Even though we are polygamists, and enjoy spending most of our time together, we value the time we have to develop and deepen the one-on-one relationships we each have with Joe.

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When the Husband is Away, The Wives…

Alina and I working on Valentine decorations

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The Mighty Sequoyah Performance At Rooftoop Concert

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Will We Do Another TV Show?

We really have done a poor job on this blog this year. In fact, after the media interviews we did last year, in addition to filming a guest appearance on Sisterwives, and our own special on My Three Wives, we really got a little burned out.

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What does it all mean?

Today I had a breakdown. I have been working out of town, getting a new project off the ground. I was in the middle of a stressful budget planning meeting when I got a call from Vicki.

“Our gas just got turned off!” she said.

“What do you mean it just got shut off?” I replied angrily. “I didn’t know that was overdue!”

“Neither did I!” she shot back, “I never received a notice in the mail.”

” We have no hot water for showers or dishes, no way to dry the laundry and we can’t use the stove. What should we do now?” she asked. “They won’t talk to me because my name isn’t on the account. They want you to call them.” she added.

“I’ll get back to you after my meeting.” I snapped.

Vicki takes on the huge task of making sure the family bills are paid on time. I lashed out and blamed her for not telling me sooner. I caught myself before I went too far, but I know I hurt her feelings and had to ask her forgiveness. All that was left to do was look in the mirror.

There are times when shouldering the responsibility of financially providing for this family feels effortless, like it is part of what I was meant to do. I gladly sacrifice my all for it. Then there are times like today, when I wonder how I am ever going to manage. Things have been very tight. Since I became self-employed and am now in the process of starting a new business, my wives and I have been carefully budgeting and shifting to make sure everything gets covered at the right time. It’s a balancing act. Any extra cash has been funneled into the new venture. On one hand I have had more time to spend with my family, more freedom to set my own hours and determine my own pay; on the other hand there has been a loss of financial security. I don’t have a set paycheck every two weeks.

My income arrives in batches. When I am between jobs, if a customer owes me and fails to pay or my expenses out pace my income, it is easy to get overwhelmed. I hate that my wives have to work at all.  Every time I see something not managed well in the home I blame it on my lack of ability to provide adequately.

I’ve noticed how when women socialize with one another they tend to ask about each other’s children or their emotional well-being. When my guy friends and I get together we ask each other about what we are doing for work or how the career is going. It seems a man’s identity, at least in my culture is tied up in his work. If you are not providing, you are not much of a man.

The family that depends on me.

I guess that is why I felt like such a failure today when I heard the gas payment was not made. Growing up there was a time when my family had a rough stretch financially. As a teenager our heat got turned off, as did our phone and a few other non-essentials that were sacrificed. I remember being humiliated to tell my friends why they couldn’t call me, and I judged my Dad for it. I vowed I would never be in that circumstance when I had a family.

So here I am in a financial crunch, with my gas turned off for the first time in my adult life. I wanted to be angry at someone and feel sorry for myself. I wanted to make it mean I have somehow failed. But in the end, all it means is that my gas got turned off today.

Tomorrow I will call the gas company and get it straightened out. After all the blaming and beating myself up, I am humbled. Today I learned there is no humility in humiliation. Sometimes the best laid plans just don’t work out. I know I have three amazing women who support me, and kids that love me no matter how much I make. They are my inspiration!   I have always said that failures are only mistakes we don’t learn by. Now it is time to truly apply that motto as I begin my new business.

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My Article In Salon.com On Polygamy And Marriage Rights

I originally wrote this article on Salon.com on April 13th of this month. While much has been said about marriage equality recently I thought it was time for us to share our thoughts about the topic.

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The rise of polygamy in Muslim Britain

Recently come across the following article on polygamy in Britain:

The custom is spreading, but while some welcome the freedom and stability it brings women, others fear the lack of legal protection

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50 Tips On How To Make A Marriage (plural or not) Sizzle

I recently came across some points on making marriage work. There are so many aspects to successful marriage but I like the idea of summing up bullet points even if it is over simplified. Here is my list of 50 points that have worked for me in my marriage. Feel free to add to any you think have been helpful in your marriage!

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Huffington Post Interview On Polygamy Legalization

The following is link on an interview we did.

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